Since I already dumped on the brand before, I want to make something clear; there is more bad about these beers than the name. Sam Adams for example did use the Patriotic name for marketing, however the beer is in an older style more authentically 18th century style. RJ Rockers suffers for the same crimes. Almost all the beers have a patriotic name, but that saves none of the beers. Founding Fathers Lager is just bad. It has no subtlety, no complexity, and no real flavor. Get a Yuengling.